WeThePeople Doomsayer Frame
It's fair to say that Jordan Godwin is one of the most progressive street riders in the world and WTP didn't cut him short on a new signature frame.... Read More
It's fair to say that Jordan Godwin is one of the most progressive street riders in the world and WTP didn't cut him short on a new signature frame.
The DOOMSAYER frame very quickly became one of the fastest-selling frames in BMX when WTP debuted it 2 years ago! For 2021 WTP sat down with Jordan Godwin and gave the frame a bit of a facelift with some technical upgrades as well as some powerful new colourways and fresh artwork collaborated with Jordan himself.
The WTP Doomsayer frame is stacked with features, from the hydro-formed tubing to the higher-than-most BB and steep head angle, the Doomsayer is made to Jordan's specifics exactly, making it one of the best street frames out there.
Featuring a smoother head tube shape as well as a brand new 7.5mm thick invest casted dropout with a smaller shape creating a “perfect” fit together with the peg and hub guard, preventing the dropout from hanging or catching on grinds.
Features:
- NEW revised dropout shape for no overhang with pegs for a smoother grind
- NEW modified head tube shape
- 127mm tall head tube for fewer spacers with an uncut fork
- Super responsive, progressive street frame, 76.25° head tube
- Taller 11.9" bottom bracket for agility and sprocket protection
- Wider rear triangle allows clearance for a 2.4" tire
- Hydroformed down tube and seat tube junction for superior strength
- Includes WTP supreme 6061-t6 alloy aftermarket seat clamp
- Larger 1.8mm welding and internal gusset at headtube
- Oversized 20.5mm seat stays for increased stiffness and durability
- Includes lifetime guarantee
Specification:
- Top tube length 20.5", 20.75" or 21"
- Chainstay length 12.9" – 13.25" - optimized for 13" w/25-9; 13.15'' w/ 28-9
- Head tube angle 76.25°
- Seat tube angle 71°
- Bb height 11.9"
- Stand over height 9"
- Tubing butted, Japanese seamless 4130 Chromoly tubing
- Bottom bracket 74mm mid-size, CNC machined and heat-treated
- Head tube 127mm CNC machined and heat-treated, integreated headset
- Dropouts 7.5mm investment cast with integrated chain tensioners, heat-treated 4130 Chromoly
- Brakes brakeless frame
Previous Models - Matte Pastel Blue, Matte Pastel Yellow, Pink
What can actually be said to sum up Jordan Godwin? One of the most progressive street riders in the game, to say Jordan has earned a signature frame would be the understatement of the century. The doomsayer was a natural progression of the battleship frame Jordan had been riding for the past 3 years combined with Jordan’s specific needs which have evolved over that time.
With super progressive geometry, a beefed-up tube set and a unique hydroformed seat tube junction, the doomsayer is one of the most advanced and robust street frames we’ve ever made.
“getting to work on a signature frame with wethepeople has honestly been a dream come true, i can’t thank those dudes enough for the opportunity and giving me full control of what i wanted.
One of the features I’m really hyped on is the 12.95” rear end. It feels super stable for bigger set-ups but also responsive enough to make manuals and technical grinding easier.
Together with the 76.25-degree head tube angle, the wheelbase is shorter and this has helped me so much with front end stuff especially nose manuals.
The placement of the hydroformed gussets gives the frame a real clean and balanced look. We tried a few variations of the placement but this one was definitely the cleanest look and it’s super solid! I do a lot of hard spins and that can sometimes end up twisting the back end of a frame, so we decided to beef up the seat stay tubing to completely get rid of that problem.
The graphics are something that makes a frame for me, wethepeople know that and really wanted to work close with me to get exactly what i wanted, and honestly, I couldn’t be happier with how they turned out, something simple but also really fits the image of the frame name and of course the doom mask is incorporated in there
The bottom bracket is taller at 11.9” which gives the frame a snappy feel but also so it stays out of the when grinding kink rails. Also, I run a 28t sprocket so when I’m doing oppo grinds that thing isn’t dragging on the rail/ledge.
Basically, this thing is exactly what i wanted there is nothing i would change
A serious thank you to wethepeople for making this happen letting me have control and not just making a frame then slapping my name on it. Those guys are the best for real!” – Jordan Godwin
Includes WeThePeople’s lifetime guarantee.
- TUBING: butted, seamless 4130 chromoly tubing japanese
- TOPTUBE: 20.5” / 20.75" / 21" TT
- CHAINSTAY LENGTH: 12.95" slammed, 13.2" centered
- ANGLES: HT: 76.25 °, ST: 71°
- BOTTOM BRACKET: type: mid-bb, width: 74mm, height: 11.9 ", cnc machined and heat-treated
- HEADTUBE: taller 127mm shape, cnc machined and heat-treated, integ. h / set,
- DROPOUTS: 7.5mm, invest cast crime with integrated chain tensioner bolts
- SPECIALS: brakeless frame, hydroformed toptube and downtube, oversize 20.5mm thick seat stays for increased stiffness, increidbly responsive 11.9” bottom bracket ,super steep 76.25 degree Headtube, wider rear triangle allows clearance for a 2.5 " tire, include wethepeople alloy Supreme seat clamp
- WEIGHT: 2.36kg/5.2lbs - 20.5”tt
- Colour: Black, Matte White
- Youtube URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVRUloY8nM
- Lead Time: 0
New Rider?
Choosing the correct bike for your discipline is extremely important, and sometimes for those new to the sport it can be difficult to know or decide, so we’ve broken down the main differences to help you make a decision.
Freestyle bikes are designed for the skatepark, the streets or the trails. They are constructed from strong, hard wearing materials and usually feature Steel or Chromoly frames. This means that the bike can stand up to a certain amount of impacts and hard landings, but remember no bike is indestructible. For riders looking to learn tricks and stunts, then a freestyle bike is the correct choice.
Race bikes are designed specifically with the track in mind, they are nimble lightweight machines for putting down quick lap times. Typically, they are constructed from lightweight materials like aluminium and carbon fibre to keep the weight down and the rider at the front of the pack. These bikes are strong enough for smooth landings on race and pump tracks but will not take the abuse that a freestyle bike would in concrete skateparks. If you’re looking to set fast lap times or begin your competitive career on the track, a race bike is the right choice.
Choosing the correct size BMX bike is very important, bikes that are too large will be cumbersome and hard to manoeuvre and bikes that are too small can feel cramped and hard to keep under control.
Youth freestyle bikes are sized depending on the diameter of the wheel staring at 12” all the way through to 18”, at a 20” wheel the bike is considered an adult size. Adult freestyle bikes are sized on top tube length, a 18.5” top tube is extra small for younger teenagers who have just moved up to an adult bike, a 20” top tube is small, 20.5” a medium and anything over a 21” is considered large.
Race bikes feature 20-inch wheels on all models, but the components and frame are sized dependent on age and height. Youth race bikes start from a Micro size for very young riders and offer a range of sizes through to expert XL. Pro size and upwards are considered adult bikes and are usually offered up to a Pro XXXL or larger for very tall riders.
We recommend consulting our height charts from the link below to help you choose your perfect sized bike:
Choosing the right level bike for your riding ability is important. Components that are not suitable for your level of riding can wear or fail much sooner than expected. Although BMX bikes can look very similar, under the surface components and materials used can vary greatly.
All our bikes are cherry picked from the very best BMX specialist brands, and all our bikes are designed specifically for use at the skatepark or on the track.
FREESTYLE BIKES
For first time riders new to the sport our entry level bikes, priced from £200-£400, are perfect, most of these are made from high tensile steel which means they are still relatively strong, but can be slightly heavier than higher end models. You might find you’ll want to upgrade to something lighter sooner than you’d think. If you are planning on using the bike in rain or bad weather, we do strongly advise choosing a model with fully sealed bearings all round.
If you are already confident on a bike and have some experience in skateparks or performing tricks and jumps then we would recommend choosing a mid-range bike, priced from £400 to £700, with a full Chromoly frame, fork, and bars. This will be lighter and stronger than an entry level model.
For an experienced person that is already capable of performing most tricks and has previously owned BMX bikes then a high-end complete bike, or full custom would be suggested to meet the demands of this rider, these bikes are priced from £700 plus.
RACE BIKES
Our range of entry level race bikes are perfect for first time racers, usually priced between £200 and £400 most of these are constructed of heavier steel rather than aluminium. These are great to get a feel for the sport but would not be able to keep up in a competitive environment.
Our mid-range race bikes are the perfect for riders who are beginning their path to competitive racing. Priced between £400 and £800 these are not quite the high-end steeds you see at national level races, but they all feature lightweight aluminium frames and are designed specifically with the racetrack in mind.
For experienced riders who are already racing confidently at a competitive level we offer a small range of high-end complete bikes. These are usually priced between £800 and £1500 and feature many aftermarket components like carbon forks, disc brakes and folding tyres. However, at this level we highly recommend building a full custom bike, usually costing between £1500 and £3000 all components can be chosen specifically with the rider in mind. For help on building a custom bike give us a call or drop us an email!
One of our most frequently asked questions in freestyle is, which rear hub do I want, a freecoaster or a cassette? Most experienced riders know their preference, but if you’re new to the sport it can be difficult to know which choice to make.
The main difference between the two is the way the bike performs when going backwards. A traditional cassette hub requires the rider to pedal in time with the rotation of the wheel while travelling backwards, while a freecoaster allows the rider to travel backwards while keeping the pedals level in the same position as riding forwards.
Although this may seem like a brilliant feature, it does come at a price! Freecoaster hubs feature a “Slack” before engagement while pedalling forward. This means that you can turn the crank a set amount (Usually an adjustable amount) before the drivetrain engages. This is referred to as the “Slack”, when riding backwards you must keep your feet positioned within the slack, if your pedals rotate too much the drivetrain will engage and your pedals will start to rotate. The smaller the slack, the harder it is to keep your pedal positioned within it while riding backwards. This means that certain tricks are harder to perform, especially those that rely on pedal pressure, for example Tire Taps.
